Comments on: Hook Ups, Sexuality, and Socrates http://cmcforum.com/opinion/12022009-hook-ups-sexuality-and-socrates The Official Student Publication of Claremont McKenna College Wed, 08 Feb 2012 07:14:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: observation http://cmcforum.com/opinion/12022009-hook-ups-sexuality-and-socrates#comment-21487 observation Wed, 17 Feb 2010 19:21:26 +0000 http://cmcforum.com/?p=8926#comment-21487 can i see some empirical evidence for the "most cmcers being alone/lonley/degenerates later in life" claim? most alumns ive met seem pretty content... can i see some empirical evidence for the “most cmcers being alone/lonley/degenerates later in life” claim?
most alumns ive met seem pretty content…

]]> By: observation http://cmcforum.com/opinion/12022009-hook-ups-sexuality-and-socrates#comment-49626 observation Wed, 17 Feb 2010 19:21:00 +0000 http://cmcforum.com/?p=8926#comment-49626 can i see some empirical evidence for the "most cmcers being alone/lonley/degenerates later in life" claim? most alumns ive met seem pretty content... can i see some empirical evidence for the “most cmcers being alone/lonley/degenerates later in life” claim?
most alumns ive met seem pretty content…

]]> By: Ang http://cmcforum.com/opinion/12022009-hook-ups-sexuality-and-socrates#comment-21451 Ang Wed, 17 Feb 2010 05:05:17 +0000 http://cmcforum.com/?p=8926#comment-21451 not a reason why, but this was validation for my choice to generally avoid the CMC party scene. it's not so much that i'm an introvert as much as it is that i desire genuine (i.e. sober) interactions with my peers. and i felt like the weekdays in class and in the dorms were about hashing over the inane and vapid interactions of the week while simultaneously trying to avoid the "buzz-kill" of getting to know the person sitting next to you in class or the girl down the hall. i liked being able to party off-campus and have a late-night convo over homework about relationships and life histories. it was almost like once i knew someone well enough could i feel comfortable to make an ass out of myself on the weekends because they knew the "real" me. how can someone know the real you if you spend the weekdays constructing and maintaing the facade of a "party champion." it seems completely logical to me that your first impression of someone is what they're like when they're drunk or what they're like when you're drunk is going to inhibit any sober interaction that contradicts the socially acceptable "party champion." you're not going to get, "hey, you got hammered last night and disappeared. is everything okay?" it's more likely to get, "we were so schwasted last night! i don't even remember seeing you last night!" not a reason why, but this was validation for my choice to generally avoid the CMC party scene. it’s not so much that i’m an introvert as much as it is that i desire genuine (i.e. sober) interactions with my peers. and i felt like the weekdays in class and in the dorms were about hashing over the inane and vapid interactions of the week while simultaneously trying to avoid the “buzz-kill” of getting to know the person sitting next to you in class or the girl down the hall. i liked being able to party off-campus and have a late-night convo over homework about relationships and life histories. it was almost like once i knew someone well enough could i feel comfortable to make an ass out of myself on the weekends because they knew the “real” me. how can someone know the real you if you spend the weekdays constructing and maintaing the facade of a “party champion.” it seems completely logical to me that your first impression of someone is what they’re like when they’re drunk or what they’re like when you’re drunk is going to inhibit any sober interaction that contradicts the socially acceptable “party champion.” you’re not going to get, “hey, you got hammered last night and disappeared. is everything okay?” it’s more likely to get, “we were so schwasted last night! i don’t even remember seeing you last night!”

]]> By: Ang http://cmcforum.com/opinion/12022009-hook-ups-sexuality-and-socrates#comment-49625 Ang Wed, 17 Feb 2010 05:05:00 +0000 http://cmcforum.com/?p=8926#comment-49625 not a reason why, but this was validation for my choice to generally avoid the CMC party scene. it's not so much that i'm an introvert as much as it is that i desire genuine (i.e. sober) interactions with my peers. and i felt like the weekdays in class and in the dorms were about hashing over the inane and vapid interactions of the week while simultaneously trying to avoid the "buzz-kill" of getting to know the person sitting next to you in class or the girl down the hall. i liked being able to party off-campus and have a late-night convo over homework about relationships and life histories. it was almost like once i knew someone well enough could i feel comfortable to make an ass out of myself on the weekends because they knew the "real" me. how can someone know the real you if you spend the weekdays constructing and maintaing the facade of a "party champion." it seems completely logical to me that your first impression of someone is what they're like when they're drunk or what they're like when you're drunk is going to inhibit any sober interaction that contradicts the socially acceptable "party champion." you're not going to get, "hey, you got hammered last night and disappeared. is everything okay?" it's more likely to get, "we were so schwasted last night! i don't even remember seeing you last night!" not a reason why, but this was validation for my choice to generally avoid the CMC party scene. it’s not so much that i’m an introvert as much as it is that i desire genuine (i.e. sober) interactions with my peers. and i felt like the weekdays in class and in the dorms were about hashing over the inane and vapid interactions of the week while simultaneously trying to avoid the “buzz-kill” of getting to know the person sitting next to you in class or the girl down the hall. i liked being able to party off-campus and have a late-night convo over homework about relationships and life histories. it was almost like once i knew someone well enough could i feel comfortable to make an ass out of myself on the weekends because they knew the “real” me. how can someone know the real you if you spend the weekdays constructing and maintaing the facade of a “party champion.” it seems completely logical to me that your first impression of someone is what they’re like when they’re drunk or what they’re like when you’re drunk is going to inhibit any sober interaction that contradicts the socially acceptable “party champion.” you’re not going to get, “hey, you got hammered last night and disappeared. is everything okay?” it’s more likely to get, “we were so schwasted last night! i don’t even remember seeing you last night!”

]]> By: CMCer http://cmcforum.com/opinion/12022009-hook-ups-sexuality-and-socrates#comment-20404 CMCer Sun, 31 Jan 2010 01:00:32 +0000 http://cmcforum.com/?p=8926#comment-20404 I can see that pickup line working well on people when you leave CMC. Or two different ones: 1) Hey, you go out last night? How crazy was it? ...no. and, 2) Hey...back at my college, we know how to party like champions. ...whoop de fricken doo? As fun as it is now, think about how useful any of that will be. Alcohol stops being a part of social situations when you leave college. I can see that pickup line working well on people when you leave CMC.

Or two different ones:

1) Hey, you go out last night? How crazy was it?
…no.

and, 2)

Hey…back at my college, we know how to party like champions.
…whoop de fricken doo? As fun as it is now, think about how useful any of that will be. Alcohol stops being a part of social situations when you leave college.

]]> By: CMCer http://cmcforum.com/opinion/12022009-hook-ups-sexuality-and-socrates#comment-49624 CMCer Sun, 31 Jan 2010 01:00:00 +0000 http://cmcforum.com/?p=8926#comment-49624 I can see that pickup line working well on people when you leave CMC. Or two different ones: 1) Hey, you go out last night? How crazy was it? ...no. and, 2) Hey...back at my college, we know how to party like champions. ...whoop de fricken doo? As fun as it is now, think about how useful any of that will be. Alcohol stops being a part of social situations when you leave college. I can see that pickup line working well on people when you leave CMC.

Or two different ones:

1) Hey, you go out last night? How crazy was it?
…no.

and, 2)

Hey…back at my college, we know how to party like champions.
…whoop de fricken doo? As fun as it is now, think about how useful any of that will be. Alcohol stops being a part of social situations when you leave college.

]]> By: CMCer http://cmcforum.com/opinion/12022009-hook-ups-sexuality-and-socrates#comment-20403 CMCer Sun, 31 Jan 2010 00:58:07 +0000 http://cmcforum.com/?p=8926#comment-20403 Hmm. What a cop out. The effects of human nature? Please. Don't use that as an excuse for shallowness. Hate to break it to you, but things don't work out like they do at CMC. Hence why most CMS people don't either a) have long term relationships with other people currently going to CMC or b) Have so much trouble in the real world. You don't get to know people that way in reality. Sorry bub. Hmm. What a cop out. The effects of human nature? Please. Don’t use that as an excuse for shallowness. Hate to break it to you, but things don’t work out like they do at CMC. Hence why most CMS people don’t either a) have long term relationships with other people currently going to CMC or b) Have so much trouble in the real world. You don’t get to know people that way in reality. Sorry bub.

]]> By: CMCer http://cmcforum.com/opinion/12022009-hook-ups-sexuality-and-socrates#comment-49623 CMCer Sun, 31 Jan 2010 00:58:00 +0000 http://cmcforum.com/?p=8926#comment-49623 Hmm. What a cop out. The effects of human nature? Please. Don't use that as an excuse for shallowness. Hate to break it to you, but things don't work out like they do at CMC. Hence why most CMS people don't either a) have long term relationships with other people currently going to CMC or b) Have so much trouble in the real world. You don't get to know people that way in reality. Sorry bub. Hmm. What a cop out. The effects of human nature? Please. Don’t use that as an excuse for shallowness. Hate to break it to you, but things don’t work out like they do at CMC. Hence why most CMS people don’t either a) have long term relationships with other people currently going to CMC or b) Have so much trouble in the real world. You don’t get to know people that way in reality. Sorry bub.

]]> By: anonymous http://cmcforum.com/opinion/12022009-hook-ups-sexuality-and-socrates#comment-18735 anonymous Sun, 13 Dec 2009 07:44:08 +0000 http://cmcforum.com/?p=8926#comment-18735 i think what patrick writes is very very true. patrick, are you doing something to change this, or are you one of the millions of guys perpetuating this? not an accusation, just a question. i think that if people see this happening and don't like it, they need to change it! i honestly don't understand this hook up scene at CMC. Guys never ask a girl out on a date, and girls learn through reinforcement that the only way to have something with a guy is to wait till the weekend, play the mind games with text messages, and get wasted and hook up. which leaves one or both people with a lot of insecurity and wondering if it was a one night stand or something meaningful. but how can hooking up when you're plastered be "meaningful?" I have actually gone on a date with someone here, and he ended up being one of my best friends. Why can't people get to know each other sober? it's really hard to have a genuine interaction with someone of the opposite sex around here. i hope people read this article and consider changing their dating habits. If you like someone, try and get to know them in a genuine way! that means over coffee or dinner, not being beer pong partners or meeting up at 1 am i think what patrick writes is very very true. patrick, are you doing something to change this, or are you one of the millions of guys perpetuating this? not an accusation, just a question. i think that if people see this happening and don’t like it, they need to change it!

i honestly don’t understand this hook up scene at CMC. Guys never ask a girl out on a date, and girls learn through reinforcement that the only way to have something with a guy is to wait till the weekend, play the mind games with text messages, and get wasted and hook up. which leaves one or both people with a lot of insecurity and wondering if it was a one night stand or something meaningful. but how can hooking up when you’re plastered be “meaningful?” I have actually gone on a date with someone here, and he ended up being one of my best friends. Why can’t people get to know each other sober? it’s really hard to have a genuine interaction with someone of the opposite sex around here.
i hope people read this article and consider changing their dating habits. If you like someone, try and get to know them in a genuine way! that means over coffee or dinner, not being beer pong partners or meeting up at 1 am

]]> By: anonymous http://cmcforum.com/opinion/12022009-hook-ups-sexuality-and-socrates#comment-49622 anonymous Sun, 13 Dec 2009 07:44:00 +0000 http://cmcforum.com/?p=8926#comment-49622 i think what patrick writes is very very true. patrick, are you doing something to change this, or are you one of the millions of guys perpetuating this? not an accusation, just a question. i think that if people see this happening and don't like it, they need to change it! i honestly don't understand this hook up scene at CMC. Guys never ask a girl out on a date, and girls learn through reinforcement that the only way to have something with a guy is to wait till the weekend, play the mind games with text messages, and get wasted and hook up. which leaves one or both people with a lot of insecurity and wondering if it was a one night stand or something meaningful. but how can hooking up when you're plastered be "meaningful?" I have actually gone on a date with someone here, and he ended up being one of my best friends. Why can't people get to know each other sober? it's really hard to have a genuine interaction with someone of the opposite sex around here. i hope people read this article and consider changing their dating habits. If you like someone, try and get to know them in a genuine way! that means over coffee or dinner, not being beer pong partners or meeting up at 1 am i think what patrick writes is very very true. patrick, are you doing something to change this, or are you one of the millions of guys perpetuating this? not an accusation, just a question. i think that if people see this happening and don’t like it, they need to change it!

i honestly don’t understand this hook up scene at CMC. Guys never ask a girl out on a date, and girls learn through reinforcement that the only way to have something with a guy is to wait till the weekend, play the mind games with text messages, and get wasted and hook up. which leaves one or both people with a lot of insecurity and wondering if it was a one night stand or something meaningful. but how can hooking up when you’re plastered be “meaningful?” I have actually gone on a date with someone here, and he ended up being one of my best friends. Why can’t people get to know each other sober? it’s really hard to have a genuine interaction with someone of the opposite sex around here.
i hope people read this article and consider changing their dating habits. If you like someone, try and get to know them in a genuine way! that means over coffee or dinner, not being beer pong partners or meeting up at 1 am

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