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		<title>By: Sillyness</title>
		<link>http://cmcforum.com/opinion/06102009-like-it-in-the-ath-more#comment-12135</link>
		<dc:creator>Sillyness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone else find the title of this article hilarious?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone else find the title of this article hilarious?</p>
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		<title>By: Charles C. Johnson</title>
		<link>http://cmcforum.com/opinion/06102009-like-it-in-the-ath-more#comment-10989</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles C. Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 06:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@still out here, 

I&#039;ll refrain from walking into the weeds with the personal attacks on me. There are so many problems and assumptions with your assessments of my views that it would take more ink than I can spare to correct them.

I&#039;m not saying that I don&#039;t see a value to the surrounding community, but that is at our dime and we have to ask ourselves about  what those costs are. I suggested that we put all of talks online. I don&#039;t favor a world of privilege, money, and knowledge concentrated in a few hands. I do favor an academic experience where we ration our college&#039;s exposure to nutty people. Forgive me if that&#039;s against your world view, but I think I&#039;ll live. 

As for aristocratic ranks,  I reject the Marxist critique you have going on. What&#039;s wrong with aspiring to wealth? It&#039;s so 19th century, but I thank you for your compliment. And as for being treated as riff raff, you have to earn the opportunity to be treated as anything else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@still out here, </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll refrain from walking into the weeds with the personal attacks on me. There are so many problems and assumptions with your assessments of my views that it would take more ink than I can spare to correct them.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying that I don&#8217;t see a value to the surrounding community, but that is at our dime and we have to ask ourselves about  what those costs are. I suggested that we put all of talks online. I don&#8217;t favor a world of privilege, money, and knowledge concentrated in a few hands. I do favor an academic experience where we ration our college&#8217;s exposure to nutty people. Forgive me if that&#8217;s against your world view, but I think I&#8217;ll live. </p>
<p>As for aristocratic ranks,  I reject the Marxist critique you have going on. What&#8217;s wrong with aspiring to wealth? It&#8217;s so 19th century, but I thank you for your compliment. And as for being treated as riff raff, you have to earn the opportunity to be treated as anything else.</p>
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		<title>By: Still out here</title>
		<link>http://cmcforum.com/opinion/06102009-like-it-in-the-ath-more#comment-10974</link>
		<dc:creator>Still out here</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You actually see no value in CMC actively attempting to have a positive impact on the surrounding community? Especially in such an unimposing manner as allowing a few members of the community to listen to someone speak. How much is that costing you? And God forbid that someone asks a question that you already knew the answer to (even though you make it so abundantly clear that you already have an answer for everything). Maybe the 20-some-year old kid (the age/gender here is obviously irrelevant) who asks a &#039;dumb&#039; question is inspired by the speaker or the answer given to go to college themself and improve their livelihood so that they may have a positive impact on society. 

You&#039;re right,we do have a misunderstanding, but I don&#039;t think its as much about the nature of a &#039;higher, elite educaiton&#039; as it is about our worldviews. You want a world where knowledge, money, and power are concentrated in the hands of the privledged few, and I don&#039;t. 

Keep sitting on your high horse, maybe someday you will join the aristrocratic ranks you fight for so valiantly. Most likely they will give you the same treatment as you advocate CMC give &#039;the riff-raff&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You actually see no value in CMC actively attempting to have a positive impact on the surrounding community? Especially in such an unimposing manner as allowing a few members of the community to listen to someone speak. How much is that costing you? And God forbid that someone asks a question that you already knew the answer to (even though you make it so abundantly clear that you already have an answer for everything). Maybe the 20-some-year old kid (the age/gender here is obviously irrelevant) who asks a &#8216;dumb&#8217; question is inspired by the speaker or the answer given to go to college themself and improve their livelihood so that they may have a positive impact on society. </p>
<p>You&#8217;re right,we do have a misunderstanding, but I don&#8217;t think its as much about the nature of a &#8216;higher, elite educaiton&#8217; as it is about our worldviews. You want a world where knowledge, money, and power are concentrated in the hands of the privledged few, and I don&#8217;t. </p>
<p>Keep sitting on your high horse, maybe someday you will join the aristrocratic ranks you fight for so valiantly. Most likely they will give you the same treatment as you advocate CMC give &#8216;the riff-raff&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Former Censor-in-Chief</title>
		<link>http://cmcforum.com/opinion/06102009-like-it-in-the-ath-more#comment-10294</link>
		<dc:creator>Former Censor-in-Chief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 18:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>whoa there, you CANNOT get rid of free ath dinners for seniors. do you know how poor seniors get by their fourth year at cmc?! besides, only 2% actually take advantage of it consistently. the reality is truer than some of your ideas: the apartments are too far away from the Ath for people to take advantage of the savings.

ps I heard you&#039;re still in KC this summer. Let me know if you ever want bbq! Seriously...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whoa there, you CANNOT get rid of free ath dinners for seniors. do you know how poor seniors get by their fourth year at cmc?! besides, only 2% actually take advantage of it consistently. the reality is truer than some of your ideas: the apartments are too far away from the Ath for people to take advantage of the savings.</p>
<p>ps I heard you&#8217;re still in KC this summer. Let me know if you ever want bbq! Seriously&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Charles C. Johnson</title>
		<link>http://cmcforum.com/opinion/06102009-like-it-in-the-ath-more#comment-10139</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles C. Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 22:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, YouTube Me. CMC already does have a YouTube channel. It should just either 1) get more students to use it by allowing them to upload videos 2) follow Pitzer&#039;s example and actually put stuff up. Compare the two schools&#039; YouTube pages and you get what I&#039;m talking about. Pitzer puts up its graduation speakers stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/pitzercollege
http://www.youtube.com/claremontmckenna</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, YouTube Me. CMC already does have a YouTube channel. It should just either 1) get more students to use it by allowing them to upload videos 2) follow Pitzer&#8217;s example and actually put stuff up. Compare the two schools&#8217; YouTube pages and you get what I&#8217;m talking about. Pitzer puts up its graduation speakers stuff.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/pitzercollege" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/pitzercollege</a><br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/claremontmckenna" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/claremontmckenna</a></p>
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		<title>By: Charles C. Johnson</title>
		<link>http://cmcforum.com/opinion/06102009-like-it-in-the-ath-more#comment-10138</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles C. Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 22:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the real world, 

Maybe you and I have a misunderstanding about what higher, elite education is all about. Remember, the Ath exists for the student body, not for your social views.

Thanks, 
Charles</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the real world, </p>
<p>Maybe you and I have a misunderstanding about what higher, elite education is all about. Remember, the Ath exists for the student body, not for your social views.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Charles</p>
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		<title>By: Charles C. Johnson</title>
		<link>http://cmcforum.com/opinion/06102009-like-it-in-the-ath-more#comment-10133</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles C. Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 20:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Alex, a.k.a., Just do it, 

I&#039;ve already spoken with Bonnie Snortum about changing this policy since freshman year. She&#039;s given me the run around. Now if you want to help me (and anyone else) in changing the policy, I&#039;d be more than happy. Also, I think CMC should have a YouTube channel, not do its own thing. I don&#039;t think it&#039;s worthwhile to hire on more people, especially at a time of recession.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Alex, a.k.a., Just do it, </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve already spoken with Bonnie Snortum about changing this policy since freshman year. She&#8217;s given me the run around. Now if you want to help me (and anyone else) in changing the policy, I&#8217;d be more than happy. Also, I think CMC should have a YouTube channel, not do its own thing. I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s worthwhile to hire on more people, especially at a time of recession.</p>
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		<title>By: Just do it</title>
		<link>http://cmcforum.com/opinion/06102009-like-it-in-the-ath-more#comment-10131</link>
		<dc:creator>Just do it</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 19:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like this idea of CMCtube, but who&#039;s gonna do it?  Charles will probably just write 3-4 more articles on the matter for the Forum, they&#039;ll get 15-20 comments (excitement!), and then the ideas will fade.  Charles, why don&#039;t you take the initiative here and create a new system for Ath?  This is CMC, a small enough college where I bet a student run CMCtube could really take off.  I&#039;d suggest you ask Josh for help, but I&#039;d bet an Ath head table spot you&#039;d scoff at working with him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like this idea of CMCtube, but who&#8217;s gonna do it?  Charles will probably just write 3-4 more articles on the matter for the Forum, they&#8217;ll get 15-20 comments (excitement!), and then the ideas will fade.  Charles, why don&#8217;t you take the initiative here and create a new system for Ath?  This is CMC, a small enough college where I bet a student run CMCtube could really take off.  I&#8217;d suggest you ask Josh for help, but I&#8217;d bet an Ath head table spot you&#8217;d scoff at working with him.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://cmcforum.com/opinion/06102009-like-it-in-the-ath-more#comment-10123</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We all know the Ath video page sucks, but I don&#039;t think it&#039;s even necessary to &quot;outsource&quot; or &quot;subcontract&quot; anything (by the way, I think privatization has a pretty similar connotation, but who cares about connotations?).

It isn&#039;t hard to set up our own &quot;YouTube&quot; or to set up a TED-like, Vimeo.com-like, or Youtube.com like site on CMC.edu.  It might be easier to just put things on YouTube, which has tons of technicians updating the software and maintaining the servers, but I don&#039;t think it should be too hard for our full-time, paid staff to set up something on our own server so we can own and control it.  Or we can outsource the server space and bandwidth (AWS, for example) but still have it tied into our own website.  The cheapest solution would be to put it on one of those sites, but I don&#039;t think that would be as cool as doing it ourselves.  CMCtube?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We all know the Ath video page sucks, but I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s even necessary to &#8220;outsource&#8221; or &#8220;subcontract&#8221; anything (by the way, I think privatization has a pretty similar connotation, but who cares about connotations?).</p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t hard to set up our own &#8220;YouTube&#8221; or to set up a TED-like, Vimeo.com-like, or Youtube.com like site on CMC.edu.  It might be easier to just put things on YouTube, which has tons of technicians updating the software and maintaining the servers, but I don&#8217;t think it should be too hard for our full-time, paid staff to set up something on our own server so we can own and control it.  Or we can outsource the server space and bandwidth (AWS, for example) but still have it tied into our own website.  The cheapest solution would be to put it on one of those sites, but I don&#8217;t think that would be as cool as doing it ourselves.  CMCtube?</p>
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		<title>By: YouTube Me</title>
		<link>http://cmcforum.com/opinion/06102009-like-it-in-the-ath-more#comment-10117</link>
		<dc:creator>YouTube Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 16:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think a YouTube solution would be good--at least for some videos. CMC could store the original video for itself, and then publish the headliners online, as long as the speakers agree, which would be the toughest part of this move, I&#039;d say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a YouTube solution would be good&#8211;at least for some videos. CMC could store the original video for itself, and then publish the headliners online, as long as the speakers agree, which would be the toughest part of this move, I&#8217;d say.</p>
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