Comments on: Will CMC Follow Dartmouth? http://cmcforum.com/news/04272009-dplan The Official Student Publication of Claremont McKenna College Wed, 08 Feb 2012 07:14:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Kendra http://cmcforum.com/news/04272009-dplan#comment-7516 Kendra Thu, 30 Apr 2009 18:32:29 +0000 http://cmcforum.com/?p=3857#comment-7516 If CMC had implemented this plan when I was a freshman, I would never have been able to attend this school. There is a very small but still significant number of students on this campus who are part of the ROTC programs. After your freshman and sophomore years you are REQUIRED to attend four weeks of military training each summer. You don't attend = you don't commission. I would like to see Pam Gann try to tell a four star general that a couple of cadets can't attend Field Training because they have to stay on campus and complete their coursework. This would effectively eliminate all the ROTC cadets from enrolling at CMC, because it's not like they could take four weeks off of school and still get good grades, and they also can't not go to FT (Sorry for the double negative, but it works here). Also, I would HATE to be stuck in Claremont over the summer. You would be stuck taking a few select courses (Has anyone read the course list Pitzer puts out for their summer sessions? No thank you), and I would resent taking classes and trying to think when it's 100 degrees outside. Sure the idea sounds good in theory, but there are too many logistical issues with it. Claremont is not, and hopefully never will be, Dartmouth. If I had wanted to go there, I would have applied. I think CMC is definitely progressing away from its' original goals, and I don't think thats a good thing. If CMC had implemented this plan when I was a freshman, I would never have been able to attend this school. There is a very small but still significant number of students on this campus who are part of the ROTC programs. After your freshman and sophomore years you are REQUIRED to attend four weeks of military training each summer. You don’t attend = you don’t commission. I would like to see Pam Gann try to tell a four star general that a couple of cadets can’t attend Field Training because they have to stay on campus and complete their coursework. This would effectively eliminate all the ROTC cadets from enrolling at CMC, because it’s not like they could take four weeks off of school and still get good grades, and they also can’t not go to FT (Sorry for the double negative, but it works here).

Also, I would HATE to be stuck in Claremont over the summer. You would be stuck taking a few select courses (Has anyone read the course list Pitzer puts out for their summer sessions? No thank you), and I would resent taking classes and trying to think when it’s 100 degrees outside. Sure the idea sounds good in theory, but there are too many logistical issues with it. Claremont is not, and hopefully never will be, Dartmouth. If I had wanted to go there, I would have applied. I think CMC is definitely progressing away from its’ original goals, and I don’t think thats a good thing.

]]> By: Kendra http://cmcforum.com/news/04272009-dplan#comment-47509 Kendra Thu, 30 Apr 2009 18:32:00 +0000 http://cmcforum.com/?p=3857#comment-47509 If CMC had implemented this plan when I was a freshman, I would never have been able to attend this school. There is a very small but still significant number of students on this campus who are part of the ROTC programs. After your freshman and sophomore years you are REQUIRED to attend four weeks of military training each summer. You don't attend = you don't commission. I would like to see Pam Gann try to tell a four star general that a couple of cadets can't attend Field Training because they have to stay on campus and complete their coursework. This would effectively eliminate all the ROTC cadets from enrolling at CMC, because it's not like they could take four weeks off of school and still get good grades, and they also can't not go to FT (Sorry for the double negative, but it works here). Also, I would HATE to be stuck in Claremont over the summer. You would be stuck taking a few select courses (Has anyone read the course list Pitzer puts out for their summer sessions? No thank you), and I would resent taking classes and trying to think when it's 100 degrees outside. Sure the idea sounds good in theory, but there are too many logistical issues with it. Claremont is not, and hopefully never will be, Dartmouth. If I had wanted to go there, I would have applied. I think CMC is definitely progressing away from its' original goals, and I don't think thats a good thing. If CMC had implemented this plan when I was a freshman, I would never have been able to attend this school. There is a very small but still significant number of students on this campus who are part of the ROTC programs. After your freshman and sophomore years you are REQUIRED to attend four weeks of military training each summer. You don’t attend = you don’t commission. I would like to see Pam Gann try to tell a four star general that a couple of cadets can’t attend Field Training because they have to stay on campus and complete their coursework. This would effectively eliminate all the ROTC cadets from enrolling at CMC, because it’s not like they could take four weeks off of school and still get good grades, and they also can’t not go to FT (Sorry for the double negative, but it works here).

Also, I would HATE to be stuck in Claremont over the summer. You would be stuck taking a few select courses (Has anyone read the course list Pitzer puts out for their summer sessions? No thank you), and I would resent taking classes and trying to think when it’s 100 degrees outside. Sure the idea sounds good in theory, but there are too many logistical issues with it. Claremont is not, and hopefully never will be, Dartmouth. If I had wanted to go there, I would have applied. I think CMC is definitely progressing away from its’ original goals, and I don’t think thats a good thing.

]]> By: I dont know http://cmcforum.com/news/04272009-dplan#comment-7507 I dont know Thu, 30 Apr 2009 07:48:13 +0000 http://cmcforum.com/?p=3857#comment-7507 I don't think we should be so quick to hate on the D-plan. I applied to Darmouth and CMC... got into both. I chose CMC not because it didn't have the D-plan but because of location and size. My cousin goes to Dartmouth and said being on campus with his class was one of the best summers of his life. The school would have to think about housing students in dorms with A/C and things like that yes, but overall I think it'd be pretty cool to spend a summer with your friends on campus. you get a unique opportunity to do an internship at another time of year as well. And I don't think the point of this is to become more like an Ivy League at all. The main issues that would need to be addressed include what two sport atheletes woud do. Also, I think it interesting if CMC considered the semester you go abroad to be the semester you take off from CMC if you want. It would be a personal choice. Also, the reason it works well at Dartmouth is because it is on the quarter system so that issue would need to be looked at. but by having the D-plan it wouldn't make a CMC education worse at all. I don’t think we should be so quick to hate on the D-plan. I applied to Darmouth and CMC… got into both. I chose CMC not because it didn’t have the D-plan but because of location and size. My cousin goes to Dartmouth and said being on campus with his class was one of the best summers of his life. The school would have to think about housing students in dorms with A/C and things like that yes, but overall I think it’d be pretty cool to spend a summer with your friends on campus. you get a unique opportunity to do an internship at another time of year as well.

And I don’t think the point of this is to become more like an Ivy League at all.

The main issues that would need to be addressed include what two sport atheletes woud do. Also, I think it interesting if CMC considered the semester you go abroad to be the semester you take off from CMC if you want. It would be a personal choice.
Also, the reason it works well at Dartmouth is because it is on the quarter system so that issue would need to be looked at.

but by having the D-plan it wouldn’t make a CMC education worse at all.

]]> By: I dont know http://cmcforum.com/news/04272009-dplan#comment-47508 I dont know Thu, 30 Apr 2009 07:48:00 +0000 http://cmcforum.com/?p=3857#comment-47508 I don't think we should be so quick to hate on the D-plan. I applied to Darmouth and CMC... got into both. I chose CMC not because it didn't have the D-plan but because of location and size. My cousin goes to Dartmouth and said being on campus with his class was one of the best summers of his life. The school would have to think about housing students in dorms with A/C and things like that yes, but overall I think it'd be pretty cool to spend a summer with your friends on campus. you get a unique opportunity to do an internship at another time of year as well. And I don't think the point of this is to become more like an Ivy League at all. The main issues that would need to be addressed include what two sport atheletes woud do. Also, I think it interesting if CMC considered the semester you go abroad to be the semester you take off from CMC if you want. It would be a personal choice. Also, the reason it works well at Dartmouth is because it is on the quarter system so that issue would need to be looked at. but by having the D-plan it wouldn't make a CMC education worse at all. I don’t think we should be so quick to hate on the D-plan. I applied to Darmouth and CMC… got into both. I chose CMC not because it didn’t have the D-plan but because of location and size. My cousin goes to Dartmouth and said being on campus with his class was one of the best summers of his life. The school would have to think about housing students in dorms with A/C and things like that yes, but overall I think it’d be pretty cool to spend a summer with your friends on campus. you get a unique opportunity to do an internship at another time of year as well.

And I don’t think the point of this is to become more like an Ivy League at all.

The main issues that would need to be addressed include what two sport atheletes woud do. Also, I think it interesting if CMC considered the semester you go abroad to be the semester you take off from CMC if you want. It would be a personal choice.
Also, the reason it works well at Dartmouth is because it is on the quarter system so that issue would need to be looked at.

but by having the D-plan it wouldn’t make a CMC education worse at all.

]]> By: Shamil http://cmcforum.com/news/04272009-dplan#comment-7496 Shamil Wed, 29 Apr 2009 22:55:18 +0000 http://cmcforum.com/?p=3857#comment-7496 It comes down to choice, sure there is value in such a plan, and sure it could help students land jobs. But, ultimately following a D-Plan takes away choice. Students have reasons to live on campus all 4 years; so many interesting classes, year-long commitments, friends, sports, special majors, and so forth. . Admittedly, I do not know all the details about this plan, but it seems that it makes sense to give CMCers a choice. Give the option of semester in DC, Study Abroad, or a semester-long internship. Knowing CMCers, those who want to take advantage of it will do so. As it is, we have about 160 students expecting to go off-campus next year. It is surprising that between the 5Cs we are not able to put together a few popular classes that the Colleges can offer. If CMC gave me the option to taking a semester off and doing an internship (while getting credit), I would have taken full advantage of it. My guess is that at least 30 others would do the same. D-Plan might work for Dartmouth, but CMC is unique and intimate, as it is, it is hard to work out your 4 year schedule, why mandate a semester away. If we intend to grow our school in a sustainable way, we need an C-Plan, for our CMC. It comes down to choice, sure there is value in such a plan, and sure it could help students land jobs. But, ultimately following a D-Plan takes away choice. Students have reasons to live on campus all 4 years; so many interesting classes, year-long commitments, friends, sports, special majors, and so forth. . Admittedly, I do not know all the details about this plan, but it seems that it makes sense to give CMCers a choice. Give the option of semester in DC, Study Abroad, or a semester-long internship. Knowing CMCers, those who want to take advantage of it will do so. As it is, we have about 160 students expecting to go off-campus next year. It is surprising that between the 5Cs we are not able to put together a few popular classes that the Colleges can offer. If CMC gave me the option to taking a semester off and doing an internship (while getting credit), I would have taken full advantage of it. My guess is that at least 30 others would do the same.

D-Plan might work for Dartmouth, but CMC is unique and intimate, as it is, it is hard to work out your 4 year schedule, why mandate a semester away. If we intend to grow our school in a sustainable way, we need an C-Plan, for our CMC.

]]> By: Shamil http://cmcforum.com/news/04272009-dplan#comment-47507 Shamil Wed, 29 Apr 2009 22:55:00 +0000 http://cmcforum.com/?p=3857#comment-47507 It comes down to choice, sure there is value in such a plan, and sure it could help students land jobs. But, ultimately following a D-Plan takes away choice. Students have reasons to live on campus all 4 years; so many interesting classes, year-long commitments, friends, sports, special majors, and so forth. . Admittedly, I do not know all the details about this plan, but it seems that it makes sense to give CMCers a choice. Give the option of semester in DC, Study Abroad, or a semester-long internship. Knowing CMCers, those who want to take advantage of it will do so. As it is, we have about 160 students expecting to go off-campus next year. It is surprising that between the 5Cs we are not able to put together a few popular classes that the Colleges can offer. If CMC gave me the option to taking a semester off and doing an internship (while getting credit), I would have taken full advantage of it. My guess is that at least 30 others would do the same. D-Plan might work for Dartmouth, but CMC is unique and intimate, as it is, it is hard to work out your 4 year schedule, why mandate a semester away. If we intend to grow our school in a sustainable way, we need an C-Plan, for our CMC. It comes down to choice, sure there is value in such a plan, and sure it could help students land jobs. But, ultimately following a D-Plan takes away choice. Students have reasons to live on campus all 4 years; so many interesting classes, year-long commitments, friends, sports, special majors, and so forth. . Admittedly, I do not know all the details about this plan, but it seems that it makes sense to give CMCers a choice. Give the option of semester in DC, Study Abroad, or a semester-long internship. Knowing CMCers, those who want to take advantage of it will do so. As it is, we have about 160 students expecting to go off-campus next year. It is surprising that between the 5Cs we are not able to put together a few popular classes that the Colleges can offer. If CMC gave me the option to taking a semester off and doing an internship (while getting credit), I would have taken full advantage of it. My guess is that at least 30 others would do the same.

D-Plan might work for Dartmouth, but CMC is unique and intimate, as it is, it is hard to work out your 4 year schedule, why mandate a semester away. If we intend to grow our school in a sustainable way, we need an C-Plan, for our CMC.

]]> By: Gaga http://cmcforum.com/news/04272009-dplan#comment-7457 Gaga Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:33:04 +0000 http://cmcforum.com/?p=3857#comment-7457 I think they mean 'choice with incentives' - to accommodate both the students and 'the pamela'... Never mind... I think they mean ‘choice with incentives’ – to accommodate both the students and ‘the pamela’…

Never mind…

]]> By: Gaga http://cmcforum.com/news/04272009-dplan#comment-47506 Gaga Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:33:00 +0000 http://cmcforum.com/?p=3857#comment-47506 I think they mean 'choice with incentives' - to accommodate both the students and 'the pamela'... Never mind... I think they mean ‘choice with incentives’ – to accommodate both the students and ‘the pamela’…

Never mind…

]]> By: The prospy that just enrolled http://cmcforum.com/news/04272009-dplan#comment-7440 The prospy that just enrolled Wed, 29 Apr 2009 03:20:04 +0000 http://cmcforum.com/?p=3857#comment-7440 I just enrolled this week after visiting CMC a second time and I honestly can say I probably wouldn't have enrolled if Claremont followed this "D-Plan" scheduling structure. It appears that this would throw a wrench into a (seemingly) perfectly functioning machine. I think CMC needs to tread very lightly - I didn't apply to Dartmouth... I applied to CMC. I just enrolled this week after visiting CMC a second time and I honestly can say I probably wouldn’t have enrolled if Claremont followed this “D-Plan” scheduling structure. It appears that this would throw a wrench into a (seemingly) perfectly functioning machine. I think CMC needs to tread very lightly – I didn’t apply to Dartmouth… I applied to CMC.

]]> By: The prospy that just enrolled http://cmcforum.com/news/04272009-dplan#comment-47505 The prospy that just enrolled Wed, 29 Apr 2009 03:20:00 +0000 http://cmcforum.com/?p=3857#comment-47505 I just enrolled this week after visiting CMC a second time and I honestly can say I probably wouldn't have enrolled if Claremont followed this "D-Plan" scheduling structure. It appears that this would throw a wrench into a (seemingly) perfectly functioning machine. I think CMC needs to tread very lightly - I didn't apply to Dartmouth... I applied to CMC. I just enrolled this week after visiting CMC a second time and I honestly can say I probably wouldn’t have enrolled if Claremont followed this “D-Plan” scheduling structure. It appears that this would throw a wrench into a (seemingly) perfectly functioning machine. I think CMC needs to tread very lightly – I didn’t apply to Dartmouth… I applied to CMC.

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