Comments on: UTL’s “Don’t Drink the Water”: A Rather Disappointing Affair http://cmcforum.com/life/arts-culture/04142009-utl-disappointing The Official Student Publication of Claremont McKenna College Tue, 22 May 2012 03:06:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: CMCer Update http://cmcforum.com/life/arts-culture/04142009-utl-disappointing#comment-7545 CMCer Update Fri, 01 May 2009 20:47:09 +0000 http://cmcforum.com/?p=3443#comment-7545 Turns out Glengarry is not actually going to happen. The people in it apparently gave up for one reason or another. But I doubt it could have happened anyways as they did not actually have a legitimate UTL director who might have known what he or she was doing, but it was just a bunch of guys who were likely unorganized and not really taking it seriously. It would have been really cool to get another theater group going at CMC as there is not enough of a focus on the arts at CMC as their should be. Despite what Insomniac said, there are great actors and actresses at this campus. The One Acts were incredible and there were like 10 different shows and about 2-6 people each and there were only a couple repeats in actors, this means that there were at least a solid 20-30 actors to pull from. Im a junior and I hope someone elects to do this play next year and someone who has experience and knows what he is doing decides to direct it like Brendan Sasso. I would love to try out for it, but even if i didnt make it I would be stoked to see it, because Glengarry is a play that you could likely get every CMCer who ever was to come see because it is right down CMC's alley. It's unfortunate that this fell apart because I was getting really excited to see it and I think a lot of people were pretty stoked. To see what we missed, click here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-AXTx4PcKI&NR=1 Turns out Glengarry is not actually going to happen. The people in it apparently gave up for one reason or another. But I doubt it could have happened anyways as they did not actually have a legitimate UTL director who might have known what he or she was doing, but it was just a bunch of guys who were likely unorganized and not really taking it seriously. It would have been really cool to get another theater group going at CMC as there is not enough of a focus on the arts at CMC as their should be. Despite what Insomniac said, there are great actors and actresses at this campus. The One Acts were incredible and there were like 10 different shows and about 2-6 people each and there were only a couple repeats in actors, this means that there were at least a solid 20-30 actors to pull from. Im a junior and I hope someone elects to do this play next year and someone who has experience and knows what he is doing decides to direct it like Brendan Sasso. I would love to try out for it, but even if i didnt make it I would be stoked to see it, because Glengarry is a play that you could likely get every CMCer who ever was to come see because it is right down CMC’s alley. It’s unfortunate that this fell apart because I was getting really excited to see it and I think a lot of people were pretty stoked. To see what we missed, click here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-AXTx4PcKI&NR=1

]]> By: CMCer Update http://cmcforum.com/life/arts-culture/04142009-utl-disappointing#comment-47365 CMCer Update Fri, 01 May 2009 20:47:00 +0000 http://cmcforum.com/?p=3443#comment-47365 Turns out Glengarry is not actually going to happen. The people in it apparently gave up for one reason or another. But I doubt it could have happened anyways as they did not actually have a legitimate UTL director who might have known what he or she was doing, but it was just a bunch of guys who were likely unorganized and not really taking it seriously. It would have been really cool to get another theater group going at CMC as there is not enough of a focus on the arts at CMC as their should be. Despite what Insomniac said, there are great actors and actresses at this campus. The One Acts were incredible and there were like 10 different shows and about 2-6 people each and there were only a couple repeats in actors, this means that there were at least a solid 20-30 actors to pull from. Im a junior and I hope someone elects to do this play next year and someone who has experience and knows what he is doing decides to direct it like Brendan Sasso. I would love to try out for it, but even if i didnt make it I would be stoked to see it, because Glengarry is a play that you could likely get every CMCer who ever was to come see because it is right down CMC's alley. It's unfortunate that this fell apart because I was getting really excited to see it and I think a lot of people were pretty stoked. To see what we missed, click here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-AXTx4PcKI&NR=1 Turns out Glengarry is not actually going to happen. The people in it apparently gave up for one reason or another. But I doubt it could have happened anyways as they did not actually have a legitimate UTL director who might have known what he or she was doing, but it was just a bunch of guys who were likely unorganized and not really taking it seriously. It would have been really cool to get another theater group going at CMC as there is not enough of a focus on the arts at CMC as their should be. Despite what Insomniac said, there are great actors and actresses at this campus. The One Acts were incredible and there were like 10 different shows and about 2-6 people each and there were only a couple repeats in actors, this means that there were at least a solid 20-30 actors to pull from. Im a junior and I hope someone elects to do this play next year and someone who has experience and knows what he is doing decides to direct it like Brendan Sasso. I would love to try out for it, but even if i didnt make it I would be stoked to see it, because Glengarry is a play that you could likely get every CMCer who ever was to come see because it is right down CMC’s alley. It’s unfortunate that this fell apart because I was getting really excited to see it and I think a lot of people were pretty stoked. To see what we missed, click here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-AXTx4PcKI&NR=1

]]> By: Impartial Insomniac Critic http://cmcforum.com/life/arts-culture/04142009-utl-disappointing#comment-7026 Impartial Insomniac Critic Sat, 18 Apr 2009 09:50:25 +0000 http://cmcforum.com/?p=3443#comment-7026 I love to see stage plays and have seen many in my life. I have seen college, high school, community theater, and professional plays. One thing that I have noticed is that it doesn't take professional actors or a large budget to make a good play, so the first thing I would like to say is that I wish the director wouldn't duck out so easily and say things like: people have unrealistic expectations and what did you guys expect... and so forth. Secondly I would like to agree with Mr. Sasso about the critic. Whoever the critic is, does not understand plays well and definitely has never acted his or her self and if he or she has, then she or he is just cruel. First off, this person laid into Divya saying she did her part poorly... OK you try being in a play where you have 10 words or less and try to leave a positive lasting impression on the audience... They do have the saying "There is no small parts, only small actors" But COME ON... the best you can hope for when you have 10 words is that the general part of the audience wont recognize you (meaning you didnt butcher your lines and ruin the play) and that your friends will see you and think its cool that their friend was in the play. Considering it is not professional nor does Divya get any credit this critic and all others should thank people like her willing to be part of the play and take on the time committment for the good of the other actors and everyone who would come to the show, to play this bit part. But I was there on Friday and maybe the night the critic went Divya broke the 4th wall and started cussing out the audience and ruined the whole play. But if she didnt, which i know she did not, then you saying that is just cruel and unfair, she was believable as an attractive high society wife who was with her high society husband at a high society socialite party in an embassy. Also, I dont see why anyone is ripping the director. I think he did a good job and the play turned out well. It got laughs throughout and it was entertaining and that was its purpose. Who actually had anything better to do on a Wednesday or Friday night and even if someone went Thursday TNC doesnt start till after the show ended. I think the acting was pretty solid, I do agree that Menke was what stood out, but also he had the most flexible and over the top part. It is designed for him to be the constant comic relief and for him to be in for gag comedy. While Axel might have lost his composure a few times that is kind of within his character to do so. He is not supposed to be sure of himself. The girl he was going after seemed to overact her lines and that was at first annoying, but it was also in her character to be overly dramatic, but sometimes her overacting did get distracting, but i wouldnt go as far as to say that she did poorly and make fun of her, because she did her part and got some laughs of her own. In the end, the play was solid if unspectacular. It made everyone laugh. Everyone I talked to said they really liked it and with a free dinner and a free glass of wine or two or three, it was a great night. Finally I am extremely curious about this Glengarry Glenross play I have heard about. First off, why is UTL trying to disown it? who is directing it? Is it being funded? Not to be a pessimist, but i doubt it will get pulled off well, I saw the movie and the characters would be really hard to pull off. I doubt we have enough good male actors at this school considering we have no theater department. So it very well could be a huge disaster, but if its pulled off well it is an incredible play so I'm excited to see it regardless... But I have not seen any fliers, advertisements, or facebook groups for it yet, nor do many people seem to know about it so part of me is wondering if it will actually happen because i do doubt that some random guys at this school could pull of Glengarry Glenross. I love to see stage plays and have seen many in my life. I have seen college, high school, community theater, and professional plays. One thing that I have noticed is that it doesn’t take professional actors or a large budget to make a good play, so the first thing I would like to say is that I wish the director wouldn’t duck out so easily and say things like: people have unrealistic expectations and what did you guys expect… and so forth. Secondly I would like to agree with Mr. Sasso about the critic. Whoever the critic is, does not understand plays well and definitely has never acted his or her self and if he or she has, then she or he is just cruel.

First off, this person laid into Divya saying she did her part poorly… OK you try being in a play where you have 10 words or less and try to leave a positive lasting impression on the audience… They do have the saying “There is no small parts, only small actors” But COME ON… the best you can hope for when you have 10 words is that the general part of the audience wont recognize you (meaning you didnt butcher your lines and ruin the play) and that your friends will see you and think its cool that their friend was in the play. Considering it is not professional nor does Divya get any credit this critic and all others should thank people like her willing to be part of the play and take on the time committment for the good of the other actors and everyone who would come to the show, to play this bit part. But I was there on Friday and maybe the night the critic went Divya broke the 4th wall and started cussing out the audience and ruined the whole play. But if she didnt, which i know she did not, then you saying that is just cruel and unfair, she was believable as an attractive high society wife who was with her high society husband at a high society socialite party in an embassy.

Also, I dont see why anyone is ripping the director. I think he did a good job and the play turned out well. It got laughs throughout and it was entertaining and that was its purpose. Who actually had anything better to do on a Wednesday or Friday night and even if someone went Thursday TNC doesnt start till after the show ended. I think the acting was pretty solid, I do agree that Menke was what stood out, but also he had the most flexible and over the top part. It is designed for him to be the constant comic relief and for him to be in for gag comedy. While Axel might have lost his composure a few times that is kind of within his character to do so. He is not supposed to be sure of himself. The girl he was going after seemed to overact her lines and that was at first annoying, but it was also in her character to be overly dramatic, but sometimes her overacting did get distracting, but i wouldnt go as far as to say that she did poorly and make fun of her, because she did her part and got some laughs of her own.

In the end, the play was solid if unspectacular. It made everyone laugh. Everyone I talked to said they really liked it and with a free dinner and a free glass of wine or two or three, it was a great night.

Finally I am extremely curious about this Glengarry Glenross play I have heard about. First off, why is UTL trying to disown it? who is directing it? Is it being funded? Not to be a pessimist, but i doubt it will get pulled off well, I saw the movie and the characters would be really hard to pull off. I doubt we have enough good male actors at this school considering we have no theater department. So it very well could be a huge disaster, but if its pulled off well it is an incredible play so I’m excited to see it regardless… But I have not seen any fliers, advertisements, or facebook groups for it yet, nor do many people seem to know about it so part of me is wondering if it will actually happen because i do doubt that some random guys at this school could pull of Glengarry Glenross.

]]> By: Impartial Insomniac Critic http://cmcforum.com/life/arts-culture/04142009-utl-disappointing#comment-47364 Impartial Insomniac Critic Sat, 18 Apr 2009 09:50:00 +0000 http://cmcforum.com/?p=3443#comment-47364 I love to see stage plays and have seen many in my life. I have seen college, high school, community theater, and professional plays. One thing that I have noticed is that it doesn't take professional actors or a large budget to make a good play, so the first thing I would like to say is that I wish the director wouldn't duck out so easily and say things like: people have unrealistic expectations and what did you guys expect... and so forth. Secondly I would like to agree with Mr. Sasso about the critic. Whoever the critic is, does not understand plays well and definitely has never acted his or her self and if he or she has, then she or he is just cruel. First off, this person laid into Divya saying she did her part poorly... OK you try being in a play where you have 10 words or less and try to leave a positive lasting impression on the audience... They do have the saying "There is no small parts, only small actors" But COME ON... the best you can hope for when you have 10 words is that the general part of the audience wont recognize you (meaning you didnt butcher your lines and ruin the play) and that your friends will see you and think its cool that their friend was in the play. Considering it is not professional nor does Divya get any credit this critic and all others should thank people like her willing to be part of the play and take on the time committment for the good of the other actors and everyone who would come to the show, to play this bit part. But I was there on Friday and maybe the night the critic went Divya broke the 4th wall and started cussing out the audience and ruined the whole play. But if she didnt, which i know she did not, then you saying that is just cruel and unfair, she was believable as an attractive high society wife who was with her high society husband at a high society socialite party in an embassy. Also, I dont see why anyone is ripping the director. I think he did a good job and the play turned out well. It got laughs throughout and it was entertaining and that was its purpose. Who actually had anything better to do on a Wednesday or Friday night and even if someone went Thursday TNC doesnt start till after the show ended. I think the acting was pretty solid, I do agree that Menke was what stood out, but also he had the most flexible and over the top part. It is designed for him to be the constant comic relief and for him to be in for gag comedy. While Axel might have lost his composure a few times that is kind of within his character to do so. He is not supposed to be sure of himself. The girl he was going after seemed to overact her lines and that was at first annoying, but it was also in her character to be overly dramatic, but sometimes her overacting did get distracting, but i wouldnt go as far as to say that she did poorly and make fun of her, because she did her part and got some laughs of her own. In the end, the play was solid if unspectacular. It made everyone laugh. Everyone I talked to said they really liked it and with a free dinner and a free glass of wine or two or three, it was a great night. Finally I am extremely curious about this Glengarry Glenross play I have heard about. First off, why is UTL trying to disown it? who is directing it? Is it being funded? Not to be a pessimist, but i doubt it will get pulled off well, I saw the movie and the characters would be really hard to pull off. I doubt we have enough good male actors at this school considering we have no theater department. So it very well could be a huge disaster, but if its pulled off well it is an incredible play so I'm excited to see it regardless... But I have not seen any fliers, advertisements, or facebook groups for it yet, nor do many people seem to know about it so part of me is wondering if it will actually happen because i do doubt that some random guys at this school could pull of Glengarry Glenross. I love to see stage plays and have seen many in my life. I have seen college, high school, community theater, and professional plays. One thing that I have noticed is that it doesn’t take professional actors or a large budget to make a good play, so the first thing I would like to say is that I wish the director wouldn’t duck out so easily and say things like: people have unrealistic expectations and what did you guys expect… and so forth. Secondly I would like to agree with Mr. Sasso about the critic. Whoever the critic is, does not understand plays well and definitely has never acted his or her self and if he or she has, then she or he is just cruel.

First off, this person laid into Divya saying she did her part poorly… OK you try being in a play where you have 10 words or less and try to leave a positive lasting impression on the audience… They do have the saying “There is no small parts, only small actors” But COME ON… the best you can hope for when you have 10 words is that the general part of the audience wont recognize you (meaning you didnt butcher your lines and ruin the play) and that your friends will see you and think its cool that their friend was in the play. Considering it is not professional nor does Divya get any credit this critic and all others should thank people like her willing to be part of the play and take on the time committment for the good of the other actors and everyone who would come to the show, to play this bit part. But I was there on Friday and maybe the night the critic went Divya broke the 4th wall and started cussing out the audience and ruined the whole play. But if she didnt, which i know she did not, then you saying that is just cruel and unfair, she was believable as an attractive high society wife who was with her high society husband at a high society socialite party in an embassy.

Also, I dont see why anyone is ripping the director. I think he did a good job and the play turned out well. It got laughs throughout and it was entertaining and that was its purpose. Who actually had anything better to do on a Wednesday or Friday night and even if someone went Thursday TNC doesnt start till after the show ended. I think the acting was pretty solid, I do agree that Menke was what stood out, but also he had the most flexible and over the top part. It is designed for him to be the constant comic relief and for him to be in for gag comedy. While Axel might have lost his composure a few times that is kind of within his character to do so. He is not supposed to be sure of himself. The girl he was going after seemed to overact her lines and that was at first annoying, but it was also in her character to be overly dramatic, but sometimes her overacting did get distracting, but i wouldnt go as far as to say that she did poorly and make fun of her, because she did her part and got some laughs of her own.

In the end, the play was solid if unspectacular. It made everyone laugh. Everyone I talked to said they really liked it and with a free dinner and a free glass of wine or two or three, it was a great night.

Finally I am extremely curious about this Glengarry Glenross play I have heard about. First off, why is UTL trying to disown it? who is directing it? Is it being funded? Not to be a pessimist, but i doubt it will get pulled off well, I saw the movie and the characters would be really hard to pull off. I doubt we have enough good male actors at this school considering we have no theater department. So it very well could be a huge disaster, but if its pulled off well it is an incredible play so I’m excited to see it regardless… But I have not seen any fliers, advertisements, or facebook groups for it yet, nor do many people seem to know about it so part of me is wondering if it will actually happen because i do doubt that some random guys at this school could pull of Glengarry Glenross.

]]> By: Frankenstein http://cmcforum.com/life/arts-culture/04142009-utl-disappointing#comment-6892 Frankenstein Thu, 16 Apr 2009 06:06:15 +0000 http://cmcforum.com/?p=3443#comment-6892 Why is everyone so against anonymity? I wasn't the commenter nor do I share his/her views but it seems as if the villagers all want to get their pitchforks and hunt down this one person with a critical view. UTL is flawed. It is a group of nonprofessionals who put on shows. The director didn't originally want to direct the play so what can you expect? I love UTL but they aren't broadway and they do put on bad shows from time to time, as well as great ones. Learn to deal with criticism and move on. Why is everyone so against anonymity? I wasn’t the commenter nor do I share his/her views but it seems as if the villagers all want to get their pitchforks and hunt down this one person with a critical view. UTL is flawed. It is a group of nonprofessionals who put on shows. The director didn’t originally want to direct the play so what can you expect? I love UTL but they aren’t broadway and they do put on bad shows from time to time, as well as great ones. Learn to deal with criticism and move on.

]]> By: Frankenstein http://cmcforum.com/life/arts-culture/04142009-utl-disappointing#comment-47363 Frankenstein Thu, 16 Apr 2009 06:06:00 +0000 http://cmcforum.com/?p=3443#comment-47363 Why is everyone so against anonymity? I wasn't the commenter nor do I share his/her views but it seems as if the villagers all want to get their pitchforks and hunt down this one person with a critical view. UTL is flawed. It is a group of nonprofessionals who put on shows. The director didn't originally want to direct the play so what can you expect? I love UTL but they aren't broadway and they do put on bad shows from time to time, as well as great ones. Learn to deal with criticism and move on. Why is everyone so against anonymity? I wasn’t the commenter nor do I share his/her views but it seems as if the villagers all want to get their pitchforks and hunt down this one person with a critical view. UTL is flawed. It is a group of nonprofessionals who put on shows. The director didn’t originally want to direct the play so what can you expect? I love UTL but they aren’t broadway and they do put on bad shows from time to time, as well as great ones. Learn to deal with criticism and move on.

]]> By: Luke Johnson http://cmcforum.com/life/arts-culture/04142009-utl-disappointing#comment-6890 Luke Johnson Thu, 16 Apr 2009 05:40:58 +0000 http://cmcforum.com/?p=3443#comment-6890 The "campus critic" should reveal him/herself if he/she feels so strongly about this play. I think you can be critical without being mean, but this reviewer doesn't get the distinction. If you are going to be mean, at least I hope you're funny. This is just mean. I laughed more during the play. The “campus critic” should reveal him/herself if he/she feels so strongly about this play.

I think you can be critical without being mean, but this reviewer doesn’t get the distinction.

If you are going to be mean, at least I hope you’re funny. This is just mean. I laughed more during the play.

]]> By: Luke Johnson http://cmcforum.com/life/arts-culture/04142009-utl-disappointing#comment-47362 Luke Johnson Thu, 16 Apr 2009 05:40:00 +0000 http://cmcforum.com/?p=3443#comment-47362 The "campus critic" should reveal him/herself if he/she feels so strongly about this play. I think you can be critical without being mean, but this reviewer doesn't get the distinction. If you are going to be mean, at least I hope you're funny. This is just mean. I laughed more during the play. The “campus critic” should reveal him/herself if he/she feels so strongly about this play.

I think you can be critical without being mean, but this reviewer doesn’t get the distinction.

If you are going to be mean, at least I hope you’re funny. This is just mean. I laughed more during the play.

]]> By: Tammy Phan http://cmcforum.com/life/arts-culture/04142009-utl-disappointing#comment-6861 Tammy Phan Wed, 15 Apr 2009 18:50:21 +0000 http://cmcforum.com/?p=3443#comment-6861 Haha. Okay, but it was blue, not purple, nonetheless. Haha. Okay, but it was blue, not purple, nonetheless.

]]> By: Tammy Phan http://cmcforum.com/life/arts-culture/04142009-utl-disappointing#comment-47361 Tammy Phan Wed, 15 Apr 2009 18:50:00 +0000 http://cmcforum.com/?p=3443#comment-47361 Haha. Okay, but it was blue, not purple, nonetheless. Haha. Okay, but it was blue, not purple, nonetheless.

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