Forbes Ranks CMC #26, One Step Ahead of Pomona

 

Forbes released its list of America’s Best Colleges, and Claremont McKenna comes in at #27 — importantly, one spot above Pomona College.

Forbes, who worked with the Center for College Affordability and Productivity to compile the rankings,  explains the methodology:

To answer these questions, the staff at CCAP gathered data from a variety of sources. They based 25% of the rankings on 4 million student evaluations of courses and instructors, as recorded on the Web site RateMyProfessors.com. Another 25% is based on post-graduate success, equally determined by enrollment-adjusted entries in Who’s Who in America, and by a new metric, the average salaries of graduates reported by Payscale.com. An additional 20% is based on the estimated average student debt after four years. One-sixth of the rankings are based on four-year college graduation rates–half of that is the actual graduation rate, the other half the gap between the average rate and a predicted rate based on characteristics of the school. The last component is based on the number of students or faculty, adjusted for enrollment, who have won nationally competitive awards like Rhodes Scholarships or Nobel Prizes.

TuckerCarlson(CNN)It’s easy to see how the emphasis on faculty prestige could have affected our ranking– not that CMC professors aren’t notable and award-winning, but because the school places more emphasis on a professor’s classroom responsibilities than their research pursuits.

Even more interesting is that Forbes cites Who’s Who in America as an influencing factor. Wasn’t it Forbes that published Tucker Carlson’s tongue-lashing on Who’s Who? Of course, it’s ridiculous to say that because Forbes published Carlson’s piece, they have to follow his decrees.  But I have to concur with Carlson — Who’s Who is kind of a joke.  And therefore probably shouldn’t be a factor in college rankings.

I was most surprised, though, by the school winning the top spot. Yes, West Point, otherwise known as the US Military Academy, came in at #1. Forbes offered a snapshot of life there: “The best college in America has an 11:30 p.m. curfew. It doesn’t allow alcohol in the dorms, which must be kept meticulously clean. Students have to keep their hair neat, their shoes shined, their clothes crisply pressed…” Now no question that West Point is a top notch and important institution, but that does not sound to me like my #1 college. And so the real takeaway from the Forbes rating is this: rankings are not always the best indicator of where one should apply to college.

 
 
 
  • JAZ

    Centre College at 14 above both CMC and Pomona? Compare the stats.

    Ranked 29 – CMC’s Stats
    Total cost* $50,990
    Freshman class size 320
    Total undergrads 1,211
    SAT range ** 1290-1490
    ACT range NA
    Percent of applicants admitted 22%
    Student to faculty ratio 8 to 1

    Ranked 28 – Pomona’s Stats
    Total cost* $49,745
    Freshman class size 382
    Total undergrads 1,532
    SAT range ** 1390-1560
    ACT range 30 – 34
    Percent of applicants admitted 16%
    Student to faculty ratio 8 to 1

    Ranked 14 – Centre College
    Private Total cost* $39,200
    Freshman class size 336
    Total undergrads 1,197
    SAT range ** 1130-1370
    ACT range 26 – 30
    Percent of applicants admitted 63%
    Student to faculty ratio 11 to 1

    Taking a look at this stat comparision this Forbes ranking becomes laughable. Also, they ranked Dartmouth below Transylvania University. This ranking must be some kind of practical joke.

    No wonder Forbes is on the verge of bankruptcy while its business sucks wind.

  • JAZ

    Centre College at 14 above both CMC and Pomona? Compare the stats.

    Ranked 29 – CMC’s Stats
    Total cost* $50,990
    Freshman class size 320
    Total undergrads 1,211
    SAT range ** 1290-1490
    ACT range NA
    Percent of applicants admitted 22%
    Student to faculty ratio 8 to 1

    Ranked 28 – Pomona’s Stats
    Total cost* $49,745
    Freshman class size 382
    Total undergrads 1,532
    SAT range ** 1390-1560
    ACT range 30 – 34
    Percent of applicants admitted 16%
    Student to faculty ratio 8 to 1

    Ranked 14 – Centre College
    Private Total cost* $39,200
    Freshman class size 336
    Total undergrads 1,197
    SAT range ** 1130-1370
    ACT range 26 – 30
    Percent of applicants admitted 63%
    Student to faculty ratio 11 to 1

    Taking a look at this stat comparision this Forbes ranking becomes laughable. Also, they ranked Dartmouth below Transylvania University. This ranking must be some kind of practical joke.

    No wonder Forbes is on the verge of bankruptcy while its business sucks wind.

  • B

    Still, I don’t see any of my friends at other colleges complaining, nor even making a big deal of their rankings (i.e at Stanford, Berkeley, etc). In fact, seems to be many of us CMCers who are acting all affronted and butthurt because we’re only #26.

  • B

    Still, I don’t see any of my friends at other colleges complaining, nor even making a big deal of their rankings (i.e at Stanford, Berkeley, etc). In fact, seems to be many of us CMCers who are acting all affronted and butthurt because we’re only #26.

  • Chris

    Forbes sucks at making college ranking lists. Luckily most people seem to know this fact and don’t take Forbes seriously.

  • Chris

    Forbes sucks at making college ranking lists. Luckily most people seem to know this fact and don’t take Forbes seriously.

  • JCB

    West Point won because it’s free. Who’s Who is a joke, and not every college uses the national RateMyProfessors.com. Most have school-specific rating sites. Bottom line is 50% of the ranking is based on pure BS, so I wouldn’t put much stock in it.

  • JCB

    West Point won because it’s free. Who’s Who is a joke, and not every college uses the national RateMyProfessors.com. Most have school-specific rating sites. Bottom line is 50% of the ranking is based on pure BS, so I wouldn’t put much stock in it.