Can Rap Be Saved? Part 3: the Odd Future of Rap

 

I’ve sat down several times in the last few days and attempted to outline my thoughts for this, the final chapter in an extended rant about music.  It’s been a great ride, let me say, and one that I’m appreciative for editors Kelsey Brown and Heath Hyatt to let me embark upon.  And yet, I feel as though I’ve written myself into a corner.  I’ve done my best to cover the business/pop side of rap music, complete with insipid Modest Mouse samples (and dear god, Isaac Brock, you guys better have made a boatload of money for that one).  Then, we moved on and discussed what it’s like to be amongst the best players in the league, so to speak.  And now, here we are at the third part of “Can Rap Be Saved?” a part that I have lovingly reserved for talking about independent artists, the up-and-comers of the business.  In researching for this article, I was staggered by the number of artists that are out there, and I began to worry that no matter who I chose to write about, someone out there would inevitably have their feelings hurt that I failed to mention MC Such-and-Such or Longtime Underground Group X.  But then, two days ago, Tyler the Creator’s new album Goblin leaked to the internet and I had a hearty chortle and moved on with my life.

Let me tell you, writing about successful music artists who are also younger than you is a trip.

Haven’t heard of him?  Or rather, haven’t heard of the Los-Angeles rap collective ODD FUTURE WOLF GANG KILL THEM ALL?  They’re probably not going to be your cup of tea.  The group, which consists of names that seem to have a harmonic effect on the “blogosphere,” consists of a handful of Los Angeles kids who are probably younger than you.  There’s Tyler the Creator, born Tyler Okonma, the lanky producer and ringleader with a reputation for being notoriously goofy in interviews.  There’s Earl Sweatshirt, who’s not even old enough to vote yet, and for reasons that have been left utterly up for speculation, seems to have disappeared from the face of the earth.  There’s Frank Ocean, taking on the role of crooner, and making perhaps the most accessible music in the group.  The rest of the group requires a Wikipedia check to list out:  Hodgey Beats, Domo Genesis, Mike G, Syd the Kid, Left Brain, Matt Martians, Jasper Dolphin, and Taco.  They’re not all rappers, or even musicians, mind you.  Jasper Dolphin is credited as being the group’s “skateboarder,” Martians does graphic design, Taco makes music videos.  The group records their music in a room at Taco’s house, known as the Wolf Lair.  And it prompts the question: why should anyone care?

Here’s why.  ODD FUTURE WOLF GANG KILL THEM ALL (a name it is only possible to write in bold and all-caps) are going to be huge.  These are 16-21 year old kids, Los Angeles skateboarders, and for the last year and half, they’ve done nothing but give away music for free.  It’s an endeavor that grew a cult-like following, and one that ultimately prompted Sony’s RED music branch to give them their own record label, Odd Future Records.  They’ve got a TV show in the works for Cartoon Network’s Adult Swim, they’ve performed at Coachella and soon at England’s Reading festival, they’ve been on Late Night with Jimmy Fallon, they’ve been interviewed by the New York Times, they’ve been live on the BBC.  And all of this in the span of less than two months.

So what’s the buzz about then?  It’s about this.  If you’re squeamish, do yourself a favor and click the links in the parentheses instead.  They make heavy grinding beats, they rap about rape, violence, psychiatrists, and Jesus.  Their biggest break yet came with the release of the music video for “Yonkers,” the first single off Tyler the Creator’s new album, Goblin. (Non-Music Video)  The video, shot in shaky black and white with a camera experiencing serious ADD, depicts Tyler, in order, eating a cockroach, throwing up, removing his clothes, and hanging himself.  Oh, then there’s the video for Earl Sweatshirt’s song “Earl,” which, again in order, has the whole of ODD FUTURE WOLF GANG KILL THEM ALL mixing pills, weed, malt liquor and other items into a blender, mixing it, drinking it, and then skateboarding while bleeding from their noses, nipples, mouths, and losing teeth.  (Again, just the song)  Okay, so now we need a new question: what on earth is going on here, and who in the right mind would give these guys a record deal?

There will be many more magazine covers in these guys' future. Or should we say "Odd Future?" Har Har Har.

The answer to that question could, very well, be expounded upon in a three-part blog article.  But in its essence, it can be boiled down to this: It’s raw.  It’s angry, jaded, and off-the-wall, and it’s what has been missing from rap music.  It’s like the 1990s all over again: hardcore rap music, with questionable production values, controversial content, the whole nine yards.  All that comes nicely to a head on Tyler’s latest work, Goblin. Kanye West might have explored his own psyche on his most recent musical album, but it happens to be that Tyler’s id, ego, and superego are a bit darker.  Some sample lyrics: “I’ll stab Bruno Mars in his goddamn esophagus,” “I’m not gay, I just want to boogie to some Marvin,” and (perhaps most worrying for me), “I’m stabbing any blogging [bad word] hipster with a Pitchfork.”  And those are all from the same song.  Tyler and company have gotten the genre-tag of “horrorcore,” which means exactly what it sounds like, but the group, fittingly, insists they’re just making rap music.  Maybe it boils down to a matter of taste if you appreciate what ODD FUTURE WOLF GANG KILL THEM ALL are doing here, but there’s one thing that can be said: no artist with a major-label deal could even dream of saying something like this.  And what’s more: these punks are making the most of their creative freedom, and by god they’re getting famous doing it.

 

 

So maybe that’s what’s in store for rap: a lack of self-censorship, and the ability to do pretty much whatever.  Their business model (Goblin is the first record that the group will be charging for, and while I have the leaked version now, count me first in line to financially support them) is startlingly indie-rock, and harkens back to the days in the late 1980s when Fugazi never charged more than 5 dollars for a concert ticket when they easily could have charged $20.  If ODD FUTURE WOLF GANG KILL THEM ALL isn’t your scene, there’s other great independent rap artists out there, too, and a lot of them are similarly giving their music away for free.  Childish Gambino (who I am contractually obligated to say is Community actor Donald Glover) raps about sexual escapades that will put anything that happened at Slippery When Wet to shame.  Das Racist (who recently performed at Pitzer College) raps about smoking weed, and then about smoking weed some more.

The bottom line?  Perhaps rap music is about to hit its “indie” phase.  There’s a plethora ($10 word, check) of great independent artists that are basically giving their music away for free.  So get out there on the big scary interweb, read hip blogs, and find good music.  If rap can be saved (if it even needs saving), then it’s going to take a team effort between you and people like Tyler the Creator, and what better friend could you ask for than this man.

 
 
 
  • leks

    My big thing with Odd Future is that their musical personas are so different from how they seem in every video and interview I have seen. On video they seem like a bunch of goofy ass kids (which they are), on record they seem like rapist drug addicts (which they aren’t). The difference between the two comes off to me as, well, fake.

    • Old School

      I would tend to agree with you. What has always appealed to me about the rap genre is that it is an expression of an authentic lifestyle, something which I see as sadly lacking in 95% of rap currently produced. I tend to be a big believer in writing (or rapping) what you know, as this leads to the most truthful expression of emotion. Odd Future is off-putting to me because based on their videos and lyrics, they experience no true conflicts in their lives. They are an extension of a particularly unpleasant strain of nihilism as exemplified in “Fight Club,” where personal and societal destruction is the only way of feeling anything. It may be raw, but it is rawness for its own sake. There is no conflict that needs resolving in their lives, no meaning to anything they do. Tupac and Biggie exemplified the idea that life on the streets was about survival, that you needed to deny an essential part of your humanity to ensure that survival, and all the attendant problems that such a denial implies.

      In contrast, what I see in these videos are the misguided attempts of today’s youth to deny their humanity solely for the purpose of feeling. Perhaps this is the message, as exemplified by their moniker “Odd Future.” Would I want to live in a future where people deny their humanity solely for the purpose of feeling? Nope. Count me unimpressed with their lyrical content and lifestyle.

      • itzagudwun

        @a5a67ffc376bfd405798e25c1389bb89:disqus comment has ivory tower written all over it.

        You forget he’s only 19 years old, and hell, when I was 16-19 I was going through the same psycho-dramatic phase of my life and I grew up in a polished neighborhood… This guy grows up in Compton, goes to 12 schools in 12 years, and has clear parental issues and he has no conflict that needs resolution in his life?  He doesn’t trust anyone, not even his fans, but these young teens and tweens…and his best friend was wiped off the face of the earth..! 

        Tyler’s voice, image, and poetry is undeniable and to call it “rawness for its own sake” is, truthfully, ignorant.  You have Kanye calling out the Video of the Year in February, which by the way, is the same beat that every other hip hop artist has spit over.   You have Pharrell jumping on stage at Coachella, and the subsequent purity of the joy that was on Tyler’s face… man.. That kid is just that, A KID.. 

        Plus, if you can’t understand the flow of Earl, you just aren’t listening to hip-hop.

        Let’s not forget Eminem was talking about his mother, suicide, and angry fans just a decade ago.

        @8aad72e8006b48b49ba637b50c0073e7:disqus His music in inherently contradictory

        “I’m just a teenager who admits he’s suicide prone/my life is doing pretty good, so that date is postponed for now”
        “I’m a fucking walking paradox/no i’m not”
        “I’m an overachiever, so how bout I start a team of leaders/and pick up stevie wonder to be the wide receiver”
        “green paper, gold teeth, and pregnant gold retrievers/is all I want. fuck money, diamonds, and bitches, don’t need em”

        I think Tyler’s trolling the world and messing with us.  Still, you can’t deny how many people have connected with him and his music.

        • Ivory Tower

          haha, I appreciate the Ivory Tower nickname. All I’m saying is that there’s more important shit that he could be talking about. Fine, I’ll admit, as you say, “You forget he’s only 19 years old, and hell, when I was 16-19 I was going through the same psycho-dramatic phase of my life and I grew up in a polished neighborhood… This guy grows up in Compton, goes to 12 schools in 12 years, and has clear parental issues and he has no conflict that needs resolution in his life?  He doesn’t trust anyone, not even his fans, but these young teens and tweens…and his best friend was wiped off the face of the earth..! “ 

          I concede all the quoted points, but all that makes him is a whiner who can’t deal with his own issues and instead uses them to pander to the people in the “16-19 psycho-dramatic phase.” What this makes him, by your own definition, is a variation of emo rap. Excuse me if I don’t have time for someone to complain to me all day about how horrible life is. If I wanted to do that I’d go read David Foster Wallace’s new book. Having given Odd Future’s music a listen, I get no indications that they can move beyond the “I’m 16 and angry at my father/mother/the world” genre. I’ll keep listening, but don’t expect me to herald them as the saviors of hip hop based on a decent flow and no lyrical content. 

        • Old School

          I listened to more of his stuff. He doesn’t do drugs? Also, relating to the emo stuff, “If I had a therapist,” Tyler said, “I wouldn’t be able to make the music I want to make, I wouldn’t be able to do what I’m doing now.” 

          What does he rap about? Those are the things “I think about when I’m alone, that I don’t like thinking about,” he said. “It’s not hard to think about, it’s not hard to make, but I hate thinking about it, so I hate listening to it.” Hmmm, sounds kinda emo to me. 

          Also, another piece of evidence in the emo evidence heap. “Let’s buy guns and kill those kids with dads and moms.”

          Aww, no mommy and daddy to help you buy a porsche? “Later in the afternoon, after the merchandise details are sorted out, he, his friend Jasper Dolphin, and the co-manager Kelly Clancy went shopping at some discount stores for a golf outfit that he wanted to wear the following day for a video shoot. Along the way, at a party-supply store, he appeared to steal a pack of Justin Bieber stickers; later he tossed a half-full Wendy’s Frosty from the passenger seat of Ms. Clancy’s Porsche S.U.V. at a group of respectably dressed people lined up near the Grove mall.” 

          Sweet bro, you threw a frosty at some people that are doing something with their lives. 

          Whatever, I realize that I enjoy crapping on unproductive members of society trying to express some deep inner struggle because I don’t see their problems as relevant. 

          Relegate me to that Ivory Tower, with my 2Pac and my biggie, cause I have no sympathy for this guy. Find me riding with http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BL6dWDfs5x8

        • Ivory Tower

          haha, I just realized what would happen if Tyler the Creator messed with 2Pac. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Waj8LoZUXDw 
          Let me know the last time a rap artist called out their enemies besides their mom and dad? The Nas-Jay-Z and the Game-G-Unit Feuds were the last big beefs to happen in rap. I’m not asserting that feuds define rap, but they do define a serious topic that deserves consideration, unlike this BS. 

        • itzagudwun

          I think calling them unproductive is unfair; they’ve definitely jumped
          into a top tier tax bracket within the last six months, but onto the
          point at hand.

          He does do drugs, just not Marijuana. A lot of prescription stuff; “I slipped myself some pink Xanies…”

          Ms. Clancy’s the better half and business partner of Mr. Christian Clancy, who’s the manager that signed on with OF, I want to say but am not sure, in 2009; but I mean most of their identity; which I contend hasn’t changed since their arrival onto the hip hop scene, can be traced to pre-’09.  Just because they’re given these things doesn’t mean that they don’t understand the prospect of their roots…I think the same could be said for Pac and Biggie (Mo’ Money Mo’ Problems comes to mind), but I digress.  The Clancy brand is pretty big, especially with his work with Interscope; so the car is distinctly theirs and just because they have money doesn’t mean Tyler does.  In fact a lot of his raps talk about how he sees very little money coming from the records he’s made; and money’s become less of an issue in his raps (he concedes he has little more money now in Goblin)

          “Let’s buy guns and kill those kids with dads and moms.” is immediately followed by

          “with nice homes, 401K’s, and nice-ass lawns.
          Those privileged fucks gotta learn that we ain’t taking no shit
          like Ellen Degeneres’ clitoris is playing with dick. ”

          It’s not an emotional attack on kids with parents, but privileged kids that had everything that OF didn’t have.  Think Jalen Rose calling Grant Hill an Uncle Tom; I think the problems extend beyond something purely psychological or emotional, but something socioeconomic; which isn’t that different from the rhymes of Big and Pac.

          I find it offensive that you pus Nas/Jay, EC/WC, Pac/Big, with Game/50.  That one was whack.  The feud was a marketing trend in the 90′s and even Jay and Nas’s beef was juvenile at best compared to what happened in the first half of the decade.

          But let’s not forget that Tyler pulled a response from B.o.B. and continuously attacks a solid 80% (a rough estimate) of the hip hop community.  It’s an evolving world; we don’t have anymore icons like Pac or Big; and most artists who are similar in statue two decades after scoff at that stuff (Jay-Z singlehandedly whipped the notion of “beef” off two-three years ago, and whoever tries to pull something with someone like ‘Ye *ahem* 50, just get embarrassed)

          But the big picture is this: you don’t appreciate hip hop with emotion; which I contend is just snobbery.  Emotion is inherent in hip hop, this just happens to be less veiled and is distinctly different from anything we’ve seen since the first three Marshall Mathers albums.  I think to criticize Tyler is to miscomprehend the impact he has and had on the HIP HOP community; the same way it is to overlook Em’ impact about 12  years ago.  Eminem rapped about his mother and Kim all the way to the Eminem Show, and we didn’t see him fully evolve until 10 years after Slim Shady LP; and we expect Tyler to be different; to be bigger than his raps before he’s 20? 

  • leks

    My big thing with Odd Future is that their musical personas are so different from how they seem in every video and interview I have seen. On video they seem like a bunch of goofy ass kids (which they are), on record they seem like rapist drug addicts (which they aren’t). The difference between the two comes off to me as, well, fake.

  • Erik Kappelman

    Dude ugh tyler the creator is a no go i mean you are right conceptually but ugh tyler the creator. Glad to read your stuff man keep it up

  • true fan

    These guys are fucking dope but they got too many bandwagoners now

  • itzagudwun

    Hip Hop has been entering it’s “indie” phase for years now without much effect.

    See for example the XXL Freshman list for the last couple of years; they were all indie but how many do you listen to now?  How many times do we talk of “Below the Heavens”, some new Murs and Slug collab, or another BIG K.R.I.T/Chiddy Bang or Mac Miller/Asher Roth coming to the stage for a second coming before they disappear or go mainstream in the eyes of Pitchfork reading/wielding bloggers?

    Even Tyler wants to sell the fuck out, win a grammy, and just peace; although on his own terms. There’s no way Childish Gambino stays “underground”

    He’ll only crash that plane B.O.B’s in to take his place and replace his “shitty” music with his own angry, albeit amazing, music… and lets not get ahead of ourselves; Tyler may hold the most potential from any slew of artists in the last decade but we’ve read this story about 10 times in the last decade.  Why should we get ahead of ourselves?

  • dreg

    OFWGKTADGAF are indie hip hop, look at their fan base…teens, skaters, whites and hipsters– the only black fans they have are “blipsters”

    not saying in order to be authentic hip hop you need a black fan base, I’m saying in order to be authentic hip hop you need fans who live, breathe and eat hip hop…

    I’m saying they’re “huge” because of the shitty internet blog culture of the day, where every blog has to comment– positively, mind you–on the latest buzzworthy band or group. And as a result, every image conscious, superficial cool kid aligns his or herself with their favorite blog’s– and, according to the transitive property, all blogs– opinion…

    and what’s sad is these cosigns make OF seem legitimate…but let’s analyze them…Diddy is a joke, Jay Z can’t rap anymore, and Kanye is no longer interested in traditional rap

    OFWGKTA is what’s wrong with music today, sigh

    • itzagudwun

       Best Hip Hop blog I know.

      http://theinterludes.com/2011/03/10/creating-the-creator/#more-623

      http://madburyclub.com/

      Hip Hop intelligentsia disagrees; sorry.  Pharrell gives a huge co-sign to OF, and if the Neptunes aren’t hip hop, I don’t know what is.  Plus, if Jay or Ye isn’t hip hop, who is?  Artists who can’t co-sign anyone because they’re on the up and up like KRIT, Mikey Rocks, or Mibs?  ‘Ch please.

      • dreg

         sorry, but to say Tyler, or anyone from OF, is a good rapper or a good producer is to say standards have drastically dropped

        notice how that piece on the interludes (never heard of it btw) is from 2 months ago, precisely a month or so behind the trend (jumping on the blog bandwagon down the Oregon Trail of music phenomenon), meaning they weren’t part of the initial buzz but a part of the blog consensus that undoubtedly exists

        like I said, Jay Z can’t or chooses not to RAP anymore and Ye isn’t at all concerned with RAP…and it’s cute Pharrell gives the kid a cosign, and it’s also cute that Mos Def did as well…know why? because no star wants to be irrelevant, they all like to know, or think, their opinion matters

        seriously, there’s a reason why tyler cries “f*ck 2dopeboyz and f*ck nahright…” at the top of BASTARD

        there’s a reason why the video for “French!” only has the first verse, because it’s the only good one…

        there’s a reason why Pitchfork gave Goblin the coveted “8.0,” because they don’t look at rap as rap… they regard it as noise, like the music they’re better suited to review

        I may be a hip hop purist but maybe that’s a good thing

        • Luke D.

          I would have more sympathy for the plight of hip hop purism if not for the fact that its output has been fairly stale as of late. In terms of albums released within the last five years (I’ll count 2005), I count only two really good “traditional” hip hop albums: Clipse’s Hell Hath No Fury and Ghostface Killah’s Fishscale. Funnily enough, the production on the latter album was more Just Blaze-sounding than it was RZA-sounding, signifying a shift away from the gritty beats of the 90s to more–well, I won’t say melodic–but more accessible, less atonal production. Right, RZA came with, and I quote, “the raw sound of the streets,” but hip hop has evolved past that to an extent. The reason the Clipse album was so good was because it both glamorized and questioned black street life–and by the end you still weren’t sure on which side Clipse was. Now THERE’S an interesting hip hop construct.

          The fact is that that hipster hip hop has been around ever since the music industry realized that you could make a ton of money off of rap. I recommend reading the blog entry that I’ve included at the bottom of my post. I remember stumbling onto it a little while ago and recognizing a parallel between alternative hip hop and the post-punk movement of the 80s: white kids adopted black music as their own because the mainstream wasn’t providing for their interests. Not that mainstream is a pejorative term–it isn’t–but alternative music, by definition, exists outside the majority of public awareness. So when the culturalists belittle the hipsters, they fail to realize that they are witnessing an inevitable, reactionary trend: wouldn’t you be a little snobby if you were listening to The xx back in ’09 when everyone else was listening to Flo Rida?

          http://xoxobra.blogspot.com/2009/03/analyzing-outkast-dilemma-of-popular.html

        • itzagudwun

          Because 2dopeboyz and Nahright is a senseless stream of information and nothing else; it doesn’t sparse Lil B’ from Kanye… so I fail to recognize your point.  Plus, they didn’t play Tyler’s music when he first sent it to them; so  he got shit offended.  That’s it. You think Bastard is their first work?
          http://www.2dopeboyz.com/2011/02/17/sorry-kids/

          Wait, so music videos are recorded for their lyrical soundness? So are you co-signing Earl

          Man. Fuck Pitchfork.  White suburban kids love their music.  They also loved Marshall when he first dropped his LP; and you’re going to tell me that Stan or Bitch Please II is shitty noise?

          My only problem is that you don’t define what “Hip Hop” is and to whittle it down to this “purist” notion that is nothing but snobbery.  Fuck, I listen to Ye, Jay, and P, along with Lupe’s shitty new stuff, but that doesn’t mean I don’t listen to Blu and Exile, Theophilous, Blue Scholars or someshit.  I can’t even draw a clear distinction between the dichotomy I just formed.  I have no idea who you determined to be a Hip Hop artist. I honestly can’t even derive an answer from your post.

          How can you say Earl no flow?  And how is Pharrell or Mos Def irrelevant?  LOL  They just won producer of the DECADE and are making top 40 hits as well as dropping shit with bangers like Pac Div and Cool Kids.  What the hell is your definition of Hip Hop..? It baffles me.  You’re baffling man. Baffle.

        • itzagudwun

          btw, just ’cause I knew you would pull some, “Oh, Interludes wrote after the blog hype came out in BLAH BLAH BLAH”

          http://madburyclub.com/2010/11/01/new-spread-there-goes-the-neighborhood-tyler-the-creator/

          The same writer went to the OF NY show in October; the one that supposedly set off the hype.

          I mean. I’ll wait for you to respond to what Hip Hop is; like how Luke D. does. (But two in 5-6 years is a bit harsh; no?)  Plus, by dreg’s reasoning, Clipse can’t be real hip hop cause he got the ultimate co-sign by Ye.

        • itzagudwun

           my bad; http://madburyclub.com/2010/11/09/madbury-live-odd-futures-nyc-debut-performance/

          Oh look, there goes dramatic effect flying by.

  • dreg

    oh, and Dan, your research is wicked spotty.

  • Clayton

     Is there a more hackneyed cliche in music than then asking if rap can be saved? I don’t think so. Also, rap entering its indie phase? What is that even supposed to mean?